“One
devotee said that qualified devotees do not want to become gopīs - they want to
become blade of grass, like Brahmāji and Uddhava”
Advaitadas -
That is
daft. These are statements of humility in sādhaka deha. Did the six Goswāmīs
want to become blades of grass too? They are our role-models, not Brahmā or Uddhava,
who are aiśvarya jñānīs. Look how Rūpa and Raghunātha were craving for Rādhārāṇī’s
darśana and service. They who speculate like that have no sat guru. Mahāprabhu
said ataev gopī-bhāv koro angīkāra –
“Therefore adopt the mood of the gopīs”. But they will not obey.
Dāmodar Das -
Why mañjarī bhāv is not dāsya but mādhurya?
Advaita Das
“It is dāsya within mādhurya. Sādhu Bābā considered it dāsya. When he
gave me siddha pranali he revealed that Prabhu Sītānāth is Viśākhā in mādhurya
rasa and Rati Mañjarī in dāsya rasa.”
Dāmodar Dās -
So we are serving in the group of Rati Mañjarī? Rati Mañjarī is serving
under guidance of Viśākhā and they are both Sītānāth?
Advaita Dās -
No we serve in the group of Viśākhā. Yes they are both Sitanatha.
Dāmodar Dās -
What is then the difference between the dāsya of Citraka Patraka etc and
the dāsya of the mañjarīs?
Advaita Dās -
This is rādhā dāsya, whereas Raktaka Patraka is Kṛṣṇa-dāsya. Again, it
is actually mādhurya. Look at Vilāpa Kusumānjali verse 16- dasyāya te mama
raso'stu raso’stu – “Let me have taste for Your dāsya only.”
Dāmodar Dās -
One devotee does not understand. He says that if it is just dāsya, where
is mādhurya?
Advaita Das -
"It is not just dāsya. Look at Vilāpa Kusumānjali verse 16 - “Let me
truly have only taste for your dāsya.” Whose dāsya? Not kṛṣṇa dāsya but rādhā
dāsya."
Dāmodar Dās -
dāsya for Rādhā means mādhurya for Kṛṣṇa because mañjarīs feel all that
Rādhā feels?
Advaita Das
That is one aspect yes, bhāva tādātmya. The bottom line is – this is dāsya
as a component of mādhurya. In mādhurya there is sambhogecchātmikā and tad
bhāvecchātmikā. The first is desire to enjoy, that is mādhurya within mādhurya.
The second is desire to share feelings, that is dāsya within mādhurya -
sakhyāya te mama namo'stu namo'stu nityam
dāsyāya te mama raso'stu raso'stu satyam
This is the mahāmantra for rādhā dāsya.
Dāmodar Dās -
"So dāsya which deals with mādhurya becomes mādhurya also?"
Advaita Dās -
It does not become, it IS. Dās Goswami does not speak of Kṛṣṇa-dasya in Vilāpa
Kusumānjali verse 16.”
Another bhakta -
Dear friend, what is your opinion: I read on a
Facebook page that the adhikāra for receiving siddha-pranālī is ĀSAKTI... I can
find a reference nowhere - others say that it should be given in BHAJANA-KRIYĀ...
Advaita Dās -
“It is hard to say. If they want to do that on that
level there is nothing wrong with that. My Guru did not keep a fixed standard
on that. It is an individual thing. If someone makes āsakti a default value he
is wrong but if they want to keep such standard as their own value [THEIR OWN]
there is no fault in that.”
bhakta 3-
I regularly receive a newsletter. Below, I pasted a
portion of a recent item from them. What is your opinion on this? Or have you
discussed this on your blog?
Sahajiyas
Cannot Relish His Sweetness
These demons were against Kṛṣṇa, so instead of experiencing His
sweetness, they simply experienced their own enmity. Similarly, if we imagine
that we are deeply meditating on Kṛṣṇa’s asta-kaliya-lila, His daily
twenty-four hour pastimes with the gopis, but we have not reached the stage of
bhava-bhakti, we will also not experience His sweetness. Rather, we will
experience our own lusty and other material desires. In this connection, Kamsa
and other demons represent our material desires. Kṛṣṇa and the realization of
the sweetness of Kṛṣṇa is surely our goal, but do not try to jump up to the top
of the tree. Begin from the root of the tree and gradually climb up from there;
then you can realize your goal. The sincere devotee engages in the proper
process of bhakti from the start. At first he follows the verse beginning with
adau sraddha tatah sadhu- sango ‘tha bhajana-kriya. After this, he is able to
follow the principles as stated in the verse beginning ksantir
avyartha-kalatvam.
Advaita Dās -
The
sweetness of Kṛṣṇa is of course also relished in stages before niṣṭhā and ruci,
otherwise why would brand new bhaktas give up hearth and home and practise
celibacy and so, if there were no higher taste? Of course there are gradations
of relish, hence one of the stages of devotional development is called 'ruci'.
Also the ācāryas clearly say that even in the bhāva-bhakti stage, which is mentioned here, there are anarthas or unwanted habits, be it
subtle.
Finally - ever more Bhāgavat-nectar (2.6.34) -
na bhāratī
me’ṅga mṛṣopalakṣyate na vai kvacin me manaso mṛṣā gatiḥ
na me hṛṣīkāṇi
patanty asat-pathe yan me hṛdautkaṇṭhyavatā dhṛto hariḥ
Brahmā said:
"O Nārada! My words are not false, the faculty of my mind is never false
and my senses do not fall onto the wrong path, because I hold Lord Hari in my
enthusiastic heart!"
Radhe Radhe!
ReplyDeletePlease help me to understand. Your Sadhu Baba told that Rati Manjari and Visakha are both Sitanath. And we are also know that Rati Majari is Dasa Goswami and Visakha is Rai Ramananda. How I can understand this information in total?
Dvijati Pujaka dasa
Dvijati,
ReplyDeleteThe answer to both your questions lie in Vilāp Kusumānjali, verses 3 and 99. In Vilāpa Kusumānjali there is only a prayer to Visakha, while the prime sakhi of Rādhārāṇī is Lalitā. Then why not a prayer to Lalitā but to Viśākhā, her second sakhī, instead? The answer is - Raghunāth Dās Goswāmī is a disciple of Yadunandanācārya (see Vilāpa Kusumānjali verse 4), who is again a disciple of Advaita Prabhu.
Thus Rati Manjari serves under Viśākhā.
Then Rati Manjari - look at verse 3 of Vilāp Kusumānjali - tvam eva rati manjari.
If Raghunāth Dās Goswāmī prays to himself in verse 3, as some claim, then that would be a breach of protocol - maryādā laṅghana.
And if that were a new rule, then why Rūpa Goswāmī never prayed to Rūpa Manjarī and Viśvanāth Cakravartīpāda never prayed to Vinod Manjari?
Moreover, another verse by Raghunāth Dās Goswāmī makes it crystal clear he/she is not Rati Manjari - śrī rūpa rati manjaryor aṅghri sevaika gṛdhnuna - "I am only craving for the service of the lotusfeet of Śrī Rūpa and Rati Manjari" (Prārthanāmṛta - 1) -
who is exclusively hankering for his/her own foot-service???
The svarūpas of Mahāprabhu's pārsadas are mentioned in Gaura Ganoddeśa Dīpikā but there too, Kavi Karnapura expresses his opinion and acknowledges that others have other opinions too.
Very nice. Please keep the nectar flowing.
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