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Thursday, December 01, 2022

Vilāpa-kusumānjali by Śivarāma Svāmī volume I – verses 1-17


 VILĀPA KUSUMĀNJALI by Śivarāma Svāmī  volume I – verses 1-17

Book review

Today’s blog coincides with the 40th anniversary of my first acquaintance with Śrīla Raghunātha Dāsa Gosvāmī’s ‘Vilāpa Kusumānjali' through my divine master Śrīla Nikunja Gopāla Gosvāmī in his ashram in Navadwīpa. In my diary it says on December 1, 1982 —

Bābā enters into my room and places a small booklet before me, 'Vilāpa Kusumānjali' by Śrī Raghunātha Dāsa Gosvāmī. He tells me to memorize it and possibly to translate it into English. He says it is a very important booklet and that his father Ānanda Gopāla Gosvāmī's pāṭhas on it were famous. এই গ্রন্থের যেকোনো শ্লোক তোমাকে ধ্যানের অমৃতসাগরে নিমজ্জিত করতে পারে গভীরে ডুব দাও - নীচে রত্ন রয়েছে " “Any verse from this book can immerse you in an ocean of nectarean meditation. Dive deep – there are jewels on the bottom.” In 104 prayers this booklet gives a complete description of all manjari sevās and līlās, briefly but very sweetly.

 

Now the review of the latest edition of Vilāpa kusumānjali, by Śivarāma Svāmī - volume I – verses 1-17

 

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On page 166 Śivarāma Svāmī says manjaris are not eager for Kṛṣṇa's physical contact and their experience mirror Rādhā’s experience. That is not mentioned in the śloka but can only be found in purports on this verse by non-ISKCON-devotees like Prabhupāda Śrī Ananda Gopāl Goswāmī and Anantadās Bābājī. Prabhupāda Śrī Kiśora Gopāl Goswami, the eldest son of Prabhupāda Śrī Ananda Gopāl Goswāmī, spoke in his commentary on the same verse:

 “The Divine Pair becomes inebriated in Each other’s presence. In the course of these pastimes Śyāmasundara bites Śrīmatī's lips, leaving a mark there. The relationship between Svāminī and Rūpa Mañjarī is so pure that all the signs of Kṛṣṇa's love-making on Śrīmatī's body, such as His bite-marks on Her lips, become reflected on Śrī Rūpa Mañjarī's body also.”

Śivarāma Svāmī wrote a book against taking śikṣā outside ISKCON but this purport shows he himself clearly took śikṣā outside ISKCON.

Śivarāma Svāmī  then quotes Raghunātha Dāsa Goswāmī’s Vraja Vilāsa Stava verse 38 -


prāṇa preṣṭha sakhī kulād api kilāsaṅkocitā bhūmikāḥ

kelī bhūmiṣu rūpa mañjarī mukhās tā dāsikāḥ saṁśraye


which is accidentally also quoted by non-ISKCON-devotee Anantadās Bābājī in his purport to the same verse?

On pages 167-168 Śivarāma Svāmī quotes Viśvanātha Cakravartīpāda’s commentary on Śrīmad Bhāgavata 1.9.34 which is ‘accidentally’ also quoted by non-ISKCON-devotee Prabhupāda Śrī Ananda Gopāl Goswāmī in his purport of Vilāpa Kusumānjali 17.

On page 169 Śivarāma Svāmī quotes Bhaktivinode’s Jaiva-dharma, chapter 17 saying that Gauḍīya sādhakas attain 2 siddha dehas – one in Kṛṣṇa-līlā and one in Gaura-līlā. Where is that mentioned in the 6 Goswāmīs’ books?

On page 173 Śivarāma Svāmī  quotes his Guru saying one ‘realizes his original position and wants to be reinstated as a friend, servant or conjugal lover of the lord’. This is contrary to śāstra (Śrīmad Bhāgavata 4.29.70, 5.25.8, 5.26.3, 6.5.11, 8.24.46, 11.11.4, 11.11.7, 11.22.10, 12.11.29, and Vedānta Sūtra 2.1.35) which says anādyavidyā – our conditioning is beginningless. ’Re-instated’ means you were with Kṛṣṇa before and this is not Vedic siddhānta but Christianity.

On page 174 Śivarāma Svāmī  quotes Govinda Līlāmṛta 11.137 -

 

spṛśati yadi mukundo rādhikāṁ tat sakhīnāṁ

bhavati vapuṣi kampa sveda romañca vāṣpam

adhara madhu mudāsyās cet pibaty esa yatnād

bhavati bata tad āsāṁ mattatā citram etat

 

exactly as non-ISKCON-devotee Anantadās Bābājī did in his Vilāpa Kusumānjali 1 purport. Coincidence? Or did he take śikṣā outside ISKCON?

 

Vilāpa Kusumānjali 2

In his commentary on Vilāpa Kusumānjali verse 2, on pages 188-193 of his book, Śivarāma Svāmī  takes more śikṣā outside of ISKCON by copying the entire purport of Prabhupāda Śrī Kiśora Gopāl Goswāmī, the eldest son of Prabhupāda Śrī Ananda Gopāl Goswāmī, peppering it with his own additions. There is simply too much to quote here in a mere blog. It includes even the final point “The fact that Svāminī is here addressed as 'land lotus', indicates that She is not close to the Śyāma-ocean of rasa (the word kamala means water flower, but She's named sthala-kamalinī, land lotus, here).


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In his commentary on Vilāpa Kusumānjali 3, page 204, Śivarāma Svāmī quotes Prabhupāda Śrī Kiśora Gopāl Goswāmī, the eldest son of Prabhupāda Śrī Ananda Gopāl Goswāmī, a non-ISKCON devotee, from whom one should not take śikṣā, describing how Śrī Rati Mañjari quickly runs to the kunja and, hangs the bells back on Svāminī’s waist without being noticed by Her girlfriends, since she seems to be just joining in the dance.

On page 220 Śivarāma Svāmī writes, “Rūpa Manjari’s cloud-grey eyes contain the untold mystery of the Vedas” Is a pretty dry attempt at poetry, making comparisons with Vedas which have already been rejected in Bhagavad-Gīta 2.40-45, let alone by the rasika ācāryas of the Gauḍīya Sampradāya.

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On page 225 Śivarāma Svāmī  makes aparādha to Yadunandanācārya by saying “even if Rūpa Gosvāmī is more spiritually prominent than his dīkṣā-guru.” The Guru is on the absolute level and not on relative or comparitive level. Śrīmad Bhāgavat (7.15.26) clearly says -


yasya sākṣād bhagavati jñāna-dīpa-prade gurau

martyāsad-dhīḥ śrutaṁ tasya sarvaṁ kuñjara-śaucavat


“For a person having faulty intelligence who thinks that the guru, who gives the lamp of knowledge and is the Lord Himself, is an ordinary mortal, all that he has heard from guru becomes as useless as cleaning an elephant who merely becomes dirty again.”

Śrīla Raghunātha Dāsa Goswāmī praises Śrī Yadunandanācārya in his ‘Mukta carita’ (4) as one to whom he owes the mercy of Śrī Rūpa Goswāmīpāda -

 

nāma śreṣṭhaṁ manum api śacī-putram atra svarūpaṁ

rūpaṁ tasyāgrajam uru purīṁ māthurīṁ goṣṭha-bāṭīm

rādhākuṇḍaṁ girivaram aho rādhikā mādhavāśāṁ

prāpto yasya prathita kṛpayā śrī guruṁ taṁ nato'smi

 

         “I bow down to my blessed Śrī Guru, by whose grace I have received the greatest name in existence, the holy name of Kṛṣṇa, the 18-syllable Gopāla-mantra, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, the son of Mother Śacī, Svarūpa Dāmodara, Rūpa Gosvāmī, his elder brother Sanātana Gosvāmī, the great city of Mathurā, the pastures of Vraja, Rādhākuṇḍa, the best of mountains Govardhana, and the hope of attaining Rādhikā and Mādhava.....”

On page 225, Śivarāma Svāmī says “Yet sādhakas should not look outside their spiritual master’s line for higher teachings …..” while we have already at this early point found many instances of he himself doing exactly that.

On page 226 Śivarāma Svāmī narrates how Sanātan Goswāmīpāda was chastised by Jagadānanda Pandit for wearing red cloth (saying that it is not for Vaiṣṇavas to wear) – providing food for thought why both the author, his Guru and his Param Guru disobey this prohibition?

On page 232 Śivarāma Svāmī claims that the brahma gāyatrī is part of Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava initiation while such practice is neither prescribed in Haribhakti Vilasa, nor has it been practiced by any other Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava but the followers of Bhaktisiddhānta Saraswati. Brahma gāyatrī is not a part of bhakti sādhana at all but of varṇāśrama dharma, and is only for men born in the upper three castes, to which the author does not belong.

On page 234 Śivarāma Svāmī calls gunjā-mālā ‘a small garland of conchshells’, while even every riksha driver in India knows they are red and black berries.

 

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On page 245 Śivarāma Svāmī writes: “Raghunātha Dāsa Goswāmī shed his false ego and regained his original identity.” There are two mistakes here – Raghunātha Dāsa Goswāmī was an eternally liberated soul (gaurāngera sangi gane nitya siddha kori māni, Narottama Dāsa Ṭhākura) and we don’t regain our original identity as we did not fall down from the spiritual world (anādyavidyā, see my review of verse 1).

On page 252 Śivarāma Svāmī  writes that Mahāprabhu is the combined form of Rādhā - Kṛṣṇa; this is not correct. Śrīla Svarūpa Dāmodara Goswāmī writes rādhā bhāva dyuti subalitam naumi kṛṣṇa svarūpam – He is Kṛṣṇa endowed with Rādhā’s bhāva and luster (Caitanya-caritāmṛta Ādi 1.5).

 

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On pages 290-291 Śivarāma Svāmī writes that Sanātan Goswāmī was called prabhu because he was an extension of Caitanya Mahāprabhu and an uttama adhikārī. Why then the members of Gauḍīya Math and ISKCON call every single new bhakta, and in extension even drunken riksha-wallas and meat-eating life-members ‘prabhu’? Is that not cheap imitation? In śāstra we see the word prabhu being used for luminaries like Vyāsadeva and Sanātan Goswāmī.

At the end of his commentary, Śivarāma Svāmī  recites a mantra -śrīṁ laṁ lavaṅga mañjaryai svāhā, which comes from who knows where but surely not from Haribhakti Vilāsa.


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On page 320 Śivarāma Svāmī  quotes this verse from Bṛhad-bhāgavatāmṛta (1.7.126) –


tathāpi sambhoga sukhād api stutaḥ sa ko'py anirvācyatamo manoramaḥ

pramoda-rāśiḥ pariṇāmato dhruvaṁ tatra sphuret tad rasikaika vedyaḥ

 

“….still this is ultimately a joy that is even greater than the transcendental bliss of meeting Kṛṣṇa, an indescribably beautiful abundance of ecstasy. Only the rasika devotees (who are able to taste the flavors of transcendental emotions) know this in truth.”

exactly at the same point that non-ISKCON-devotee Anantadās Bābājī does in his earlier Vilāpa Kusumānjali 7 purport. Coincidence? Or Śivarāma Svāmī took śikṣā outside ISKCON?

On page 326 Śivarāma Svāmī claims that one can take shelter of Śrī Rādhā in the aspired-for siddha deha at the stage of āsakti but fails to quote evidence for that from the 6 Gosvāmīs’ books. He contradicts himself immediately by quoting a verse by Raghunātha Dāsa Goswāmī where he prays to Śrīla Rūpa Goswāmī that he control his mind.


ābhīra pallī pati putra kāntā dāsyābhilāṣāti balāśva varaḥ

śrī rūpa cintāmala sapti saṁstho  mat svānta durdānta hayecchur āstām

 

“May my uncontrollable mind mount the horse of spotless thoughts about Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī that is mounted by the strong desire to serve the lover of the son of the lord of the village of cowherds.”

Is that the sign of āsakti? (though Raghunātha Dāsa Goswāmī is nitya siddha he makes a philosophical statement here in his own humility, that lack of mind control does not bar sādhakas from aspiring for rādhā-dāsyam).

 

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On page 357 Śivarāma Svāmī writes that for Raghunātha Dāsa Goswāmī the holy names have not yet parted the curtain that covers Rādhā’s pastimes. Surely he must mean that these are Raghunātha Dāsa Goswāmī’s pastimes as a sādhaka, not reality.

 

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On page 375 Śivarāma Svāmī quotes his guru Swami Bhaktivedanta saying that the Guru is a representation of Nityānanda Prabhu, a theory for which there is no scriptural evidence. Also Śivarāma Svāmī says Rādhā is the guru but Swami Bhaktivedanta didn’t say that. He said the guru is one of Rādhā’s confidential associates. Śivarāma Svāmī also mixes up the forest fire of material suffering which consumes the conditioned souls with the forest fire of divine separation felt by Raghunātha Dāsa Goswāmī, which are two totally different things.

 

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On page 391 Śivarāma Svāmī quotes exactly the same Śrīmad Bhāgavata-verses (10.38.25-26) that non-ISKCON-devotee Prabhupāda Śrī Ananda Gopāl Goswāmī quotes in his lecture on Vilāpa Kusumānjali’s verse 8 about the power of Akrūra’s obeisances. Has Śivarāma Svāmī taken śikṣā outside of ISKCON or is this sheer coincidence?

 

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On page 417 Śivarāma Svāmī  ascribes personality to the ankle-bells the way that non-ISKCON-devotee Prabhupāda Śrī Ananda Gopāl Goswāmī ascribed personality to the waist-bells in his purport of Vilāpa Kusumānjali verse 94. They are sad.

Immediately on the next page Śivarāma Svāmī quotes Rādhā Rasa Sudhānidhi (16) exactly at the same spot where non-ISKCON-devotee Anantadās Bābājī quotes it in his own purport on the same verse – is this coincidence or peeping inside a non-ISKCON book for some śikṣā outside of ISKCON?

 

pādāṅgulī nihita dṛṣṭim apatrapiṣṇum   dūrād udīkṣya rasikendra mukhendu bimbam

vīkṣe calat pada-gatiṁ caritābhirāmāṁ   jhaṅkāra nūpuravatīṁ bata karhi rādhām

 

         "When can I see Śrī Rādhā with Her charming form, shyly looking down at Her own toes when She sees the moonlike face of Kṛṣṇa, the king of relishers, from afar, as She steps along with jingling anklebells?"

 

On page 425 Śivarāma Svāmī presents the concept of vastu siddhi, when a devotee gives up his body to go to the spiritual world, something which is nowhere in the Gosvāmīs’ books.

Throughout the book, the residence of Śrī Rādhā is consistently misspelled as Yāvaṭā, when it should be Yāvaṭa.

 

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On page 436 Śivarāma Svāmī claims that love of God is dormant and cites Bhakti Rasāmṛta Sindhu (1.2.2) with a wrong translation - the words nitya siddhasya bhāvasya in that verse mean that the phenomenon of bhāva is itself eternally perfect, not that prema is dormant in the heart. That verse does not carry the word dormant at all.


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On page 462-463 Śivarāma Svāmī quotes Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura’s song describing how he was introduced to Śrī Rādhā by Rūpa Manjarī, exactly as non-ISKCON-devotee Anantadās Bābājī did in his purport of the same verse. Coincidence? Or śikṣā outside of ISKCON?

Śivarāma Svāmī calls Madhumangala bhato; this should be baṭu instead.

The different drawings of Raghunātha Dāsa Goswāmī in this book are all wrong. If, in his ecstatic state, he wore any tilaka at all, it would have been tilaka of the advaita parivāra (the unbroken disciplic succession originating from Śrī Advaita Prabhu) in which he was initiated via Yadunandanācārya (see verse 4). And with almost 100% certainty it would have been tilaka from his beloved Rādhākuṇḍa, not gopī-candana tilaka.


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On page 480 Śivarāma Svāmī says Yadunandanācārya was in the pancarātrika paramparā of Raghunātha Dāsa Goswāmī and Rupa Goswami was in his bhāgavat paramparā, while these concepts were only invented by Bhaktisiddhānta Saraswatī around 1918, some 400 years later. There is no such concept in any śāstra at all. What and where is Bhaktisiddhānta Saraswatī’s ‘pancarātrika paramparā’ then?

 

On page 483 Śivarāma Svāmī quotes Gita Govinda 1.3 -


yadi hari-smaraṇe sarasaṃ mano

yadi vilāsa-kalāsu kutūhalam |

madhura-komala-kānta-padāvalīṃ

śṛṇu tadā jayadeva-sarasvatīm

 

Śivarāma Svāmī’s translation includes the sentence “…if you wish to serve your pleasure pastimes at Rādhākuṇḍa…..” However sweet this is, it is nowhere to be found in the original text of this verse. I suppose he interprets the word sarasam to be ‘the lake’ – while Bhānu Swami translates it more truly as- in full of love (in mādhurya-rasa); B.V. Nārāyan Mahārāja says: “if you are hankering to contemplate upon him with intense affection”. The Bāla Bodhini tika (by either Caitanya Das or Prabodhānanda Saraswati) says: “The word sarasam indicates śṛṅgāra-rasa.”

On page 492 Śivarāma Svāmī claims the bridge to Ananga Manjari’s kunja in the middle of Rādhākuṇḍa is invisible, but the Govinda-līlāmṛta ślokas (7.100-101) that describe this place do not say that.

 

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On page 524 Śivarāma Svāmī quotes Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī in his 'Bhakti Rasāmṛta Sindhu' (2.5.128):

 

sañcāri syāt samonā vā kṛṣṇa-ratyāḥ suhṛd ratiḥ

adhikā puṣyamānā ced bhāvollāsa itīryate

 

while the non-ISKCON-devotee Prabhupāda Śrī Ananda Gopāl Goswāmī quoted the same verse in his lecture on the very same verse, which was later published by non-ISKCON-devotee Anantadās Bābājī in his printed edition. Has Śivarāma Svāmī taken śikṣā outside of ISKCON?

I also wonder where Śivarāma Svāmī got the teaching about tad-bhāvecchātmika bhakti from on page 525 - The devotional attitude of wanting to assist Śrī Rādhā and other yūtheśvarīs (gopī-groupleaders) in meeting Śrī Kṛṣṇa and enjoying amorous pastimes with Him and to relish the sweetness of these pastimes rather than to enjoy with Kṛṣṇa personally. It’s also in the Vilāpa Kusumānjali-edition of non-ISKCON-devotee Anantadās Bābājī.

On page 531 Śivarāma Svāmī introduces the concept of the manjaris being like Śrī Rādhā’s shadow – a concept presented no less than five times by non-ISKCON-devotee Prabhupāda Śrī Ananda Gopāl Goswāmī in his lectures on Vilāpa Kusumānjali.

On page 535 Śivarāma Svāmī quotes Bhaktisiddhānta Saraswati saying Kṛṣṇa’s cows and the flute are in śānta rasa. No śāstra says that. Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī says in his commentary on Śrīmad Bhāgavata (11.12.8) - gāvo vātsalya rasena “Vraja's cows are in vātsalya rasa.” He repeats that the cows are in vātsalya rasa in his comments on Śrīmad Bhāgavata 10.14.30-31 - aho'ti-dhanyā ityādibhīrāmātmaka vātsalyādi ratimanta eva stoṣyanti (30) ye tu tvad bhakteṣv ati-prakṛṣṭās teṣāṁ tvayi śuddha vātsalyādi rati-bhājāṁ padavīṁ prārthayitum ayogyā... (31) “I am not qualified to pray for their vātsalya rasa”), 10.20.26 (prītyā is motherly affection) 10.21.13 - “The cows (not the calves) are in vatsalya rasa-  na ca tatrāpi vātsalyabhāva eva mohane hetur astīti vācyam….., and “The cows stand still as they take Govinda within their hearts through their tear-filled eyes and embrace Him out of vātsalya bhava – sva manasaḥ kroḍe eva vātsalyāt sthāpayantyas tasthuḥ (Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī’s commentary). The statement vaṁśī priya sakhī from Brahma Samhitā (5.56) shows that Kṛṣṇa’s flute is even in madhura rasa, let alone śānta rasa!

 

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On page 575, Śivarāma Svāmī says the gopīs are not good swimmers but śāstras like Govinda-līlāmṛta and Sankalpa Kalpadruma give the opposite view.

On page 577, Śivarāma Svāmī quotes Śrī Rādhā, being in the kunja at noon with Kṛṣṇa at Rādhākuṇḍa, that he is the supreme person, served by demigods, the Vedas and the sages. A worse type of aiśvarya-view isn’t imaginable at this pinnacle of mādhurya, in both time and place. Another instance is there on page 582, where Kṛṣṇa paints alta (foot-lac) on Śrī Rādhā’s feet, a most mādhurya event, but Kṛṣṇa recites an aiśvarya verse from Rādhā-kripa-kaṭākṣa-stava-rāja (12) –

 

makheśvari kriyeśvari svadheśvari sureśvari

triveda-bhāratīśvari pramāṇa-śāsaneśvari

rameśvari kṣameśvari pramoda kānaneśvari

vrajeśvari vrajādhipe śrī rādhike namo ’stu te

 

O queen of Vedic sacrifices, O queen of pious activities, O queen of the material world, O queen of the gods, O queen of Vedic scholarship, O queen of knowledge, O queen of the goddesses of fortune, O queen of forgiveness, O queen of the forest of happiness, O queen of Vraja, O empress of Vraja, O Sri Radhike, obeisances to You!”

Clearly totally out of tune.

More on page 585: While Kṛṣṇa is putting on Her foot-lac, Śrī Rādhā hears him think ‘the Vedas say that I am the unlimited Personality of Godhead. Then why am I outdone by this humble red liquid?” This is similarly totally out of tune with the immense mādhurya of this pastime.

On page 588 Śivarāma Svāmī quotes Kṛṣṇa saying“I am in My name. so if I write my name in the laksa I will also have a place on Rādhā’s lotus-feet.” Non-ISKCON-devotee Anantadās Bābājī wrote in his purport of the same verse: “ Everyone says that I am non-different from My name, so let My name stay on Her foot-soles then!"

The circumstances under which Śrī Rādhā kicks Rati or Tulasi are practically copied from non-ISKCON-devotee Prabhupāda Śrī Ananda Gopāl Goswāmī and non-ISKCON-devotee Anantadās Bābājī as well.

 

I heard that the next volume of Śivarāma Svāmī’s Vilāpa Kusumānjali will be issued around Janmāṣṭamī 2023. If both Śrīpāda Śivarāma Svāmī and yours truly are still around we will resume our review then.

13 comments:

  1. Hare Krishna, pamho. im just a couple of paragraphs in, but im loving it. i think its obvious that in the age of the internet, everyone is having access to, and cross pollinating ideas and as long as wrong ideas are exposed to the sunlight, and good insights are adopted and imbibed internally, its all for the better ment of ones progress.

    ive also wondered the 2 deha makes no sense, arent we already in a continuation of Mahaprabhu Leela in a way, since we already have a physical body and internally we are trying to follow what our exalted Goswamis have taught us about internal realities?
    and we cant change the past, so what exactly are we doing to do with a deha in mahaprabhu's time? we cant even be a fly on the wall because thats impossible.

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  2. Gaura lila is whatever service we are rendering right here and now. It is not some imaginary planet in Goloka which is nowhere mentioned in shastra.

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  3. I appreciate the painstaking effort to clear misconceptions and point the correct references and siddhantic understanding, however the following statement really puzzles me:
    "I am NOT free from all material desires, as the author's Guru demands as qualification for rāgānugā bhakti... His Guru, Swami Bhaktivedanta, writes in his book Nectar of Devotion, chapter 16, 'Eligibility for Spontaneous Devotional Service':
    “We must always remember, however, that such eagerness to follow in the footsteps of the denizens of Vraja is not possible unless one is freed from material contamination."
    While Bhakti Rasāmṛta Sindhu, which Nectar of Devotion is supposed to be a rendering of, says in verse 1.2.5 that rāgānugā is a sādhana, not a siddhi - Bhakti Rasāmṛta Sindhu (2.1.5) - vaidhī rāgānugā ceti sā dvidhā sādhanābhidhā - "There are two types of sādhana – vaidhi and rāgānugā."

    Where exactly Swami Bhaktivedanta states that rāgānugā is NOT sādhana, or that the qualification for rāgānugā is āsakti, or ruci, or even niṣṭhā? In the sentence following the above quote from chapter 16 of Nectar of Devotion, he clearly speaks about the 'freedom from material contamination' as the stage of anartha-nivṛtti in it's gross level, like freedom from illicit sex. If you maintain that this contradicts Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu, please quote Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī where he encourages drunkards and debauchees to practice rāgānugā sādhana. Swami Bhaktivedanta faithfully represents Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī by stating that devotees who have 'transcendental covetousness' for 'the moods of the inhabitants of Vraja' are eligible for rāgānugā sādhana. But that covetousness doesn't appear in the beginning, before rendering devotional service as enjoined by śāstra and guru. At the same time he writes that in the beginning vaidhī is for those who don't have rāga:

    rāga-hīna jana bhaje śāstrera ājñāya
    ’vaidhī bhakti’ bali’ tāre sarva-śāstre gāya
    ”Those who have not attained the platform of spontaneous attachment in devotional service render devotional service under the guidance of a bona fide spiritual master according to the regulative principles mentioned in the revealed scriptures."
    Purport: ... If one does not come to the platform of spontaneous service in the beginning, he must adopt regulative service according to the instructions of the spiritual master. This regulative service is called vaidhī bhakti.
    CC Madhya 22.109

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  4. Dear Mahendra Das, when did I say that anarthas refers to gross sinful habits as drinking liquor or debauchery? There are more subtle levels of indulgence too.

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    1. Correct. Srila Prabhupāda refers to these gross anarthas, not the level of āsakti, in relation to rāgānugā sādhana. He clearly speaks about freedom from sinful habits - that rāgānugā can't be practiced by those who don't follow the Six Goswamis and "manufacture their own way and commit sins by indulging in illicit sex, intoxication and gambling, if not meat-eating." (purport to CC Madhya 22.153: lobhe vraja-vāsīra bhāve kare anugati /śāstra-yukti nāhi māne—rāgānugāra prakṛti).

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  5. PAMHO Sri Advaita Das Ji.
    It's very recently that ive learned, with much joy, that besides Gaudiyas, the Yugal Kishor+Kishori upasana in Sakhi Sahachari Bhaav, is ALSO done since atleast the time of Mahaprabhu, by Sri Hit Harivamsh Mahaprabhu, and also in the Nimbarka line with Sri Haridas and Sri Hari Vyas, amongst others.
    They all wrote spectacular Brajabhasha dohas and padas, in their Mahavaani and other granthas.
    I think it's Sri Ji's Kripa, that suddenly while hearing Sri Sachinandan Maharaj Jis lectures, initiated by Sri Ananta Das Babaji, I had a bliss experience, like a wakefront approaching me. So it was like a effect of SriJi's name and as they say, Sahachari seva in the nikunj, Mahel-tahel, and also referred as Nitya Vihaar Leela.
    Did Srila Rupa and Sanatana Goswamis ever write dohas like the acharyas in the above mentioned contemporary sampradayas? Or was it only in Sanskrit since Srila Rupa and Sanatana were just such incredible scholars...
    And from what I've gathered, in Nimbarka/Sri Kunjabihari Sri Haridas sampraday and also in RadhaVallabh/Hit Harivansh Sampraday, they also have Sahachari Bhaav with Sneha-Adhika towards Sri Ji and don't desire alone or direct meeting with Sri Krishna, and they never even dream of "bypassing" Sri Ji, so what are your thoughts on where they differ?
    I know that Parakiya is not stressed in them, neither is ekadashi, not is vipralambha. There is absolutely no doubt that they are extremely elavated saints dear to Sri Ji, so as a modern sadhu, what are your thoughts?

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    1. Radhe Radhe - vipralambha and Ekadashi are essential for Gaudiya Vaishnavas.

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  6. Jai Jai Sri Ji! I will say this, there seems to be contingencies in place, for sure. Informally talking with devotees from all 3 sampradayas dedicated to this special Yugal Nitya Vihaar seva, I am truly amazed. I had no idea for the first decade of being connected to Gaudiya Math and Iskcon, that there are Sri Haridas sampraday and also Sri Hit Harivansh sampraday who have more in common with Gaudiyas final goal of Rupanuga than one realises and its fascinating.
    Bhaktas are truly the ones through whome Kripa flows. Bhaktas could build a bridge made of matchsticks and Hari will hold that bridge. Speaking and listening to Harikatha from real devotees from Sri Hit Harivansh line and also from Sri Haridas line, has been an eye opener. Oh boy! It's the real deal, they are the real deal and it's fascinating.
    Thank you Advaita Das Ji for indulging me.

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  7. Dandavat pranam Advaita DasJi.
    Quick question about PBC verse 8. The English is "By their grace, a wish yielding tree was manifest...."
    But it seems to be, and in your own English translation commentary it seems to me that Srila Rupa and Sanatana THEMSELVES ARE the Kalpataru would be the correct verse-bhaav of the author.
    Even though one could make the argument that in the following verse 9 of the PBC the reference to the pairs granthas is made which also indeed are the living Kalpataru's, because while reading their compositions, Mercy and Grace does flow through these books and they are thus wish fulfilling tree-like for the Sadhakas desiring to have that seva body...But it seems to me that Srila Narottama Mahashay is calling them both as themselves a Kalpataru in verse 8, and not their books ....your thoughts?

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  8. It can be reconciled, like you said, based on tripadi 9, that both Rupa-Sanatana as well as their granthas are kalpa tarus.

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  9. Awesome! This truly gladdens my heart to see the reconciliation. I am wondering, when I compare the 2 editions of Tattva Sandarbha, one published by Satyanarayana Babaji in the 90's and the revised one, nuances of meaning are just as relevant and ones study is enriched by both editions. Advaita Das Ji, are you working on any translations currently that perhaps you couldn't get to earlier? I can only imagine that with the passage of time from your first groundbreaking translations decades ago, your insights and sphurti must only have grown in depth and height. Have you considered working on UN for example? What are your thoughts PrabhuJi...

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    1. Thank you for the appreciation, but no, I retired from translating years ago.

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    2. Oh! Well I am supremely grateful that you are available to respond to questions on your blog! It's like that "Phone a friend" option on TV gameshows, except this friend is a field expert. I remember that Jagat Ji would hardly ever respond to any interesting comments on his blog....

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