More Subala on Jyotidhama:
"I don't like the Chotta Haridas story. I wonder what layer of the tradition it comes from. I was a friend of Vishnujana Maharaj, and from what I hear, he took this story too strictly. I would edit this story out. Sure it may support renunciates, but why do we want to encourage persons to be renunciates? I've seen the damage done. That's why I say we need revised, edited, reimagined scriptures for today. "
He doesn't like it - understandably, because it may make him feel a bit uncomfortable since he himself took a vow of lifelong abstinence once upon a time, considering what was Chota Haridāsa's fate. And 'layer of the tradition'? - well that is another novel concept. I gather it is Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu's layer, what other layer is there? He will 'edit the story out' - wonder what will remain of the Absolute Reality of Nitya Līlā (yes, eternal pastimes) then in the end? And what means 're-imagined'? Are the original scriptures 'imagined' to start with?
Regrettably the link to Jyotidham is lost and so is the original text involving Subal.
"I don't like the Chotta Haridas story. I wonder what layer of the tradition it comes from. I was a friend of Vishnujana Maharaj, and from what I hear, he took this story too strictly. I would edit this story out. Sure it may support renunciates, but why do we want to encourage persons to be renunciates? I've seen the damage done. That's why I say we need revised, edited, reimagined scriptures for today. "
He doesn't like it - understandably, because it may make him feel a bit uncomfortable since he himself took a vow of lifelong abstinence once upon a time, considering what was Chota Haridāsa's fate. And 'layer of the tradition'? - well that is another novel concept. I gather it is Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu's layer, what other layer is there? He will 'edit the story out' - wonder what will remain of the Absolute Reality of Nitya Līlā (yes, eternal pastimes) then in the end? And what means 're-imagined'? Are the original scriptures 'imagined' to start with?
Regrettably the link to Jyotidham is lost and so is the original text involving Subal.
Madhava,
ReplyDeleteWhy not come and address Subal directly at Jyoti dham, rather than here.
Like I said ...I'm scratching my head on this one too!
jijaji
"He seems to have become a free spirit, wholly unconstrained by doctrine and tradition."
ReplyDeleteThat too, but, like Jagat, he's not just a freewheeler, but also he projects his own mundane experiences and mundane thinking on transcendence. That's what made me so mad at Jagat too.
I would like to see more direct questioning to him, to see his answers frankly.
ReplyDeleteThis is all unfolding in front of my eyes as it happens...
whats next...
Subal is pagal at best. I fail to understand why you draw attention to his absurd statements. Why don't you present Hari Katha instead of a topic like this?
ReplyDeleteIn the words of Srila Thakur Mahasaya:
Ana kathA nA bolibo,
Ana kathA nA zunibo,
sakali koribo paramArtha
praArthanA koribo sadA,
lAlasA abhISTa kathA,
ihA vinA sakali anartha (PBC 101)
"I will not say or hear anything else, but I will live a completely spriritual life (devoted to Sri Krishna). I will always pray for this coveted topic, without which everything else is useless."
sudhA kaNikA vyAkhyA:
"I constantly pray that I may always hanker for topics concerning my most beloved Sri-Sri Radha-Madhava, for anything other than those dearmost topics is simply harming my bhajan," For practitioners of raganuga bhajan, who are absorbed in lila rasa, anything other than topics of the beloved deity is a mishap.